Barry HarrisThe method
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Swing by yourself; hold the time

Barry made every player responsible for swing and tempo: you cannot lean on the bass and drums to swing for you or to hold the time. Feel the time in your own body, keep a tempo once it is set, and don’t force the swing.

In plain words

Barry told a group of horn players that each of them has to swing alone. The drummer and bassist cannot swing for you: if you were playing entirely by yourself you would still have to swing, and he said that is what he asks of himself when he plays a tune. He gave singers in Tokyo the same message: everyone is supposed to swing for themselves.

Swing by yourself0:000:36Vocal workshop: swing it yourself2:18

In an interview he called swinging by yourself the secret, which struck him when he heard Erroll Garner sit in at a Birdland jam session. He sometimes plays alone in class so students feel how the time goes without bass or drums; missing that, he said, is where we go wrong. His generation learned to swing from drummers playing four on the bass-drum pedal and guitarists keeping time; one record he loved, with Mel Powell, had no bass at all.

Interview: Detroit, Bud Powell and the shuffle8:3011:2013:0613:39

Holding the tempo is everyone’s job too, even while playing the melody. Bands blame the drummer, Barry said, but usually they all slow down together. Once a tempo is set, keep it, and he admitted that is hard. In class he treated time as part of improvising: you might repeat one phrase over and over, but you stay in time while doing it. A 1985 filmed profile catches him telling players they messed up the time coming out of a section.

Swing by yourself1:10Practising the blues with the horns, part 125:08NBC News profile at the Jazz Cultural Theatre0:35

The time should live in your body. At a clinic in Spain Barry said the music is not exact and the main thing is to groove: a bass player only began to sound like a real bassist once Barry had him pat his foot, because then he kept the tempo. Barry disliked patting the foot on two and four, which he said belong up in your heart, where you clap. And don’t force it: you do not have to exaggerate to make it swing.

The main thing is grooving0:471:19Eyes of the Masters: the first progression3:03Believe: a talk to musicians50:19Feeling the ‘and’38:17

How he said to practise it

  • Practise playing, not just practising. Barry held up Monk, who would play one tune by himself in tempo for 90 minutes, and recalled Monk making him trade choruses of My Ideal, in tempo, about a hundred times each.

    Interview: Bird, Hawkins, Monk and New York28:0328:37

  • Repeat a phrase or a scale exercise many times without letting the tempo move, whatever the tempo is. Barry might talk in time over students while they kept playing.

    Practising the blues with the horns, part 125:08Dropping notes to feel every beat4:16

  • Pat your foot while you play, as Barry made a bass player do before he would sound right.

    The main thing is grooving0:47

  • Play along with records for the feeling they give, as Barry did: he would sit at the piano and play along with a 1957 session by Bud Powell, Phil Woods, Donald Byrd, Paul Chambers and Art Taylor. He regretted that many players, some older ones included, have never felt that feeling.

    The last train to Monk: an interview11:3612:13

In Barry’s words

Each one plays from the moment he says it. Every other moment he teaches it is listed below.

You can’t swing by the drummer, you gotta swing by yourself. Everybody’s supposed to swing by themselves.

Swing by yourself, The Hague, 1989–98. A Hague class: Barry addresses the horn players before they play. 0:00 Watch on YouTube

All of us be slowing down, all of us slow down, so let’s keep a tempo. If we say this is the tempo, let’s keep it. It’s hard, too.

Swing by yourself, The Hague, 1989–98. Same class: the drummer gets the blame when everyone drags. 1:10 Watch on YouTube at 1:10

So that’s the secret. You have to swing by yourself.

Interview: Detroit, Bud Powell and the shuffle, various, 1987–2019. In an interview, after recalling Erroll Garner sitting in at Birdland. 13:39 Watch on YouTube at 13:39

I never saw anybody pat on two and four when I was a kid.

Believe: a talk to musicians, Almería, 2014. Almería talk, complaining that players now pat their foot on two and four. 50:19 Watch on YouTube at 50:19

Where this comes from

Everything above is drawn from these. Open any one to check it.

Every moment he teaches it12 moments in 10 recordings

Each time opens the transcript there; the video plays when you are online.

Swing by yourself

The Hague, 1989–98 — 2 min On YouTube

  1. 0:00

    Tells horn players to swing by themselves, not depend on the bass or drums.

    Watch on YouTube

  2. 1:10

    Keep the tempo up: everyone slows down, not just the drummer.

    Watch on YouTube at 1:10

Interview: Detroit, Bud Powell and the shuffle

various, 1987–2019 — 24 min On YouTube

  1. 13:06

    Plays alone so students feel the time without bass or drums; swinging alone is the secret.

    Watch on YouTube at 13:06

  2. 11:20

    How his generation learned to swing: drummer’s four on the pedal, guitar keeping time, no bass.

    Watch on YouTube at 11:20

Vocal workshop: swing it yourself

Tokyo — 13 min On YouTube

  1. 2:18

    Tells singers in Tokyo that everybody must swing for themselves.

    Watch on YouTube at 2:18

The main thing is grooving

Spain, 2007–08 — 1 min On YouTube

  1. 0:47

    The main thing is grooving; the bassist sounded right once he patted his foot.

    Watch on YouTube at 0:47

Eyes of the Masters: the first progression

New York City — 5 min On YouTube

  1. 3:03

    Don’t pat your foot on two and four; they belong in your heart.

    Watch on YouTube at 3:03

Passport: teaching a blues by ear

The Hague, 1989–98 — 16 min On YouTube

  1. 11:40

    This music is in four, not cut time; pat all four beats unless too fast.

    Watch on YouTube at 11:40

Feeling the ‘and’

The Hague, 1989–98 — 44 min On YouTube

  1. 38:17

    Warns a band not to exaggerate the swing to make it happen.

    Watch on YouTube at 38:17

Practising the blues with the horns, part 1

The Hague, 1989–98 — 26 min On YouTube

  1. 25:08

    While practising improvisation, practise keeping time: repeat a phrase but stay in time.

    Watch on YouTube at 25:08

Interview: Bird, Hawkins, Monk and New York

various, 1987–2019 — 44 min On YouTube

  1. 28:03

    Monk practised playing: one tune in tempo, by himself, for 90 minutes.

    Watch on YouTube at 28:03

NBC News profile at the Jazz Cultural Theatre

various, 1981–2017 — 3 min On YouTube

  1. 0:35

    1985 profile: tells players they messed up the time coming out of a section.

    Watch on YouTube at 0:35

From the lessons4 lessons, 15 points

Notes taken from Barry’s classes, each tied to the moment it comes from.

Swing by yourself

  1. Idea

    Barry told horn players that each of them must swing on their own. You cannot depend on the drummer or the bass player to swing for you: if you had to play completely alone, you would still have to swing, and he holds himself to the same standard at the piano. He gave singers the same message: everybody has to swing for themselves.

    Swing by yourself0:00Swing by yourself, not by the drummer0:00Vocal workshop: swing it yourself2:18

  2. Idea

    Barry said swinging by yourself is the secret, and that it came home to him when he heard Erroll Garner sit in at a jam session at Birdland. He sometimes sits at the piano by himself and just plays, so students feel ahead of time how it is supposed to go, without the bass player or the drummer. Not feeling it that way, he said, is where we goof a lot.

    Interview: Detroit, Bud Powell and the shuffle13:0613:39

  3. Idea

    Don’t force it. Working with a band, Barry warned against thinking you have to make the swing happen: you don’t have to exaggerate it that much to make it swing.

    Feeling the ‘and’38:17

Holding the time

  1. Idea

    Keeping the tempo is everybody’s job, even while playing the melody. Bands often blame the drummer when the time drags, but usually everyone has slowed down together. Once you have set a tempo, hold it. Barry admitted that is hard and has to be worked at.

    Swing by yourself1:10Swing by yourself, not by the drummer1:10

  2. Idea

    In a filmed profile at the Jazz Cultural Theater, Barry stops players who messed up the time coming out of a section and has them do it again: you have to watch the time and be in time.

    NBC News profile at the Jazz Cultural Theatre0:351:08

  3. Idea

    Barry liked one player’s sound but told him to be sure he was right on it and not to hesitate too much. He noted the player was laying back a little and said that was all right, but his advice was to be right on the time.

    Confirmation10:12

  4. Idea

    Barry said music, even classical music, has to sound as if you could do anything with reckless abandon, while still staying in time. That boldness surprises listeners and grabs them: play a run that way and someone in the audience will gasp.

    Let the body do it1:452:182:51

  5. Idea

    A former student once asked Barry how he could play a very slow blues so beautifully at that tempo. His whole answer was that fast is slow, and he did not explain it. The student’s own reading, after living with it: tempo is relative, so what feels fast to one player feels slow to another depending on how you choose to feel it, and an extreme tempo takes patience to feel properly.

    These 3 Words From Barry Harris Changed How I Played Music!0:000:321:07

  6. Idea

    Speaking at Barry’s funeral, a musician recalled a tribute concert at St. Peter’s Church where a singer sang tunes in a key he had never played in. He got through it and his mentor George Coleman, who was playing with him, gave him a thumbs up, but Barry, sitting up front, told him he hadn’t seen him tap his foot. Barry was watching whether a player kept time with his body, not just whether he got through.

    Barry Harris Funeral43:4044:15

Where to pat your foot

  1. Idea

    Barry said that when he was young he never saw anyone pat their foot on two and four; people patted on one and three. Two and four, he said, belong up in your heart, and they are where you clap, so patting on them as well makes no sense. He told bass players to stop doing it, and recalled watching a very famous musician patting on two and four and knowing he was not right.

    Believe: a talk to musicians50:1950:54Eyes of the Masters: the first progression3:033:42

  2. Idea

    In a different class, on a blues, Barry insisted this music is in four, not cut time: tap one, two, three, four, not just one and three. The only time he pats one and three, he said, is when the tempo is too fast to pat all four. He also told the pianist to keep it light, because it was not a heavy blues.

    Passport: teaching a blues by ear11:0611:40

Where the feeling comes from: dances, R&B gigs and records

  1. Idea

    Barry said many players, even some older ones, have never felt the real feeling of this music. He thought it came from dancing: people went to dances to hear music, not to nightclubs, and as a teenager in the mid-1940s he sat in with Charlie Parker at dances. He still sits at the piano and plays along with records for the feeling they give, for example a 1957 session with Bud Powell, Donald Byrd, Phil Woods, Paul Chambers and Art Taylor.

    The last train to Monk: an interview11:3612:1312:49

  2. Idea

    Jazz, Barry said, came out of ballrooms and dance halls. In Detroit, when the band played fast the dancers cut the time in half, and when it played slowly they doubled it; whatever the tempo, they never stopped dancing. He thought taking jazz away from dancing may have been the biggest mistake, because dancing brought in ordinary listeners, not just people who played, and they knew and recognised the songs.

    Interview: Detroit and after9:179:5110:25

  3. Idea

    To show how his generation learned to swing, Barry recommended a record of Mel Powell playing stride on Sweet Georgia Brown with a drummer and no bass player. Asked how they got the time feel without a bass, he said the drummers played four with the bass-drum pedal and the guitar player kept time. That, he said, is how they learned to swing.

    Interview: Detroit, Bud Powell and the shuffle7:578:3010:4511:20

  4. Idea

    Barry said there is something about the rhythm of the shuffle that he can’t put into words, and that drummers should be thinking shuffle even when they play regular time. In Detroit he took rhythm and blues gigs to make money, and the city was loaded with drummers who had the shuffle down, such as Pistol and Benny Benjamin, who went with Motown. One of his first gigs was with Ruth Brown and Willis ‘Gator’ Jackson, and he said you learn from that kind of work too.

    Interview: Detroit, Bud Powell and the shuffle20:2821:0121:34Interview: Detroit and after12:42

In writing4 notes

What his interviews, his students’ class notes and other teachers’ articles add.

How other teachers explain it3 videos

Barry’s students, and their students, teaching it their way. A second opinion, not Barry.

Where the accounts differ1 point
  • Barry’s advice on the foot varies. In a New School video and in his Almería talk he says pat one and three, never two and four. On a blues in a Hague class he says this music is in four, not cut time, so pat all four beats, and that he pats only one and three when the tempo is too fast for four.

    Eyes of the Masters: the first progression3:03Believe: a talk to musicians50:19Passport: teaching a blues by ear11:40

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