Barry HarrisThe method

People Barry talks about

Mel Powell

piano

American swing pianist of the 1940s, known for his work with Benny Goodman and later as a classical composer; Barry pointed to a record of his with a drummer and no bass player as an example of how brilliant the older players were.

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Barry speaking
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What Barry says

Asked how the drummers of his youth handled the bass drum, Barry brings up a record he had just found: Mel Powell with a drummer whose name he did not know and no bass player. The drummer keeps four beats with his foot while Powell plays stride, on Sweet Georgia Brown.

Interview: Detroit, Bud Powell and the shuffle7:578:30

He tells the interviewer he has to hear that record: it shows how brilliant the earlier players were and how much his own generation had to learn from them, and that they learned from the right people.

Interview: Detroit, Bud Powell and the shuffle8:30

When the interviewer comes back to the record and asks how such a group kept time without a bass, Barry says the drummers of that time played four on the bass-drum pedal and the guitar kept time, and that is how his generation learned to swing.

Interview: Detroit, Bud Powell and the shuffle10:4511:20

In his own words

Well, man, let me tell you, there’s a record of Mel Powell... and a drummer. I don’t know the drummer’s name, but it’s a record, no bass player

Interview: Detroit, Bud Powell and the shuffle, various, 1987–2019. Answering a question about how older drummers played the bass drum 8:07 Watch on YouTube at 8:07

And Mel Powell is striding... they’re playing Sweet Georgia Brown. My brother, you had to hear that record.

Interview: Detroit, Bud Powell and the shuffle, various, 1987–2019. Describing the drums-and-piano record 8:30 Watch on YouTube at 8:30

Then you’d see that our music was really brilliant, we had a lot to learn. Those cats were all brilliant. So we learned from the right people

Interview: Detroit, Bud Powell and the shuffle, various, 1987–2019. What the Mel Powell record shows about the older players 8:40 Watch on YouTube at 8:40

You got the guitar player keeping time. You got the drummer playing 4-4. Man, you learned to swing with that.

Interview: Detroit, Bud Powell and the shuffle, various, 1987–2019. Asked how such records kept time without a bass 11:35 Watch on YouTube at 11:35

Every mention

3 moments in the recordings, 2 of them Barry speaking. Each says who is talking.

Interview: Detroit, Bud Powell and the shuffle

various, 1987–2019

  1. 7:57

    Barry

    Asks if the interviewer knows Mel Powell, then describes a Powell record with a drummer and no bass.

    Watch on YouTube at 7:57

  2. 8:30

    Barry

    Powell plays stride on Sweet Georgia Brown; urges the interviewer to hear the record.

    Watch on YouTube at 8:30

  3. 10:45

    Interviewer

    Goes back to the Mel Powell record to ask whether it had drums and piano but no bass.

    Watch on YouTube at 10:45

Method ideas nearby

Ideas of the method taught in the classes where they come up, with how many mentions fall in each.

  1. 14.3Learn from the masters by ear; study the small things3
  2. 8.1Put the ii chord away3